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and house speaker john boehner talking on the phone saturday. are we any closer to a deal? and it is a bird, it is a plane. nope. it is your social security number, it turns out more than just balloons in the sky at this year's macy's thanksgiving day parade. the crazy details of this one just ahead. can i help you? i heard you guys can ship ground for less than the ups store. that's right. i've learned the only way to get a holiday deal is to camp out. you know we've been open all night. is this a trick to get my spot? [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. save on ground shipping at fedex office. ♪ [ male announcer ] they are a glowing example of what it means to be the best. and at this special time of year, they shine even brighter. come to the winter event and get the mercedes-benz you've always wished for, now for an exceptional price. [ santa ] ho, ho, ho, ho! [ male announcer lease a 2013 glk350 for $399 a month at your local mercedes-benz dealer. melissa: so, talk about raining on your parade, literally. thousands of pieces of confetti rained down on the macy's thanksg
by christmas. >> hoping to get some positive comments from john boehner. he is optimistic. a nice little boost. from negative to positive to the session highs, no 50 points away from dow 13,000 once again. the dow once again up 73 points. you have a lot of winners. the banking index is still under some pressure, but retailers are really stealing the show. many are doing well for a variety of reasons. take a look at costco. the money they're paying out to shareholders ahead of the fiscal cliff wall to get the dividend ahead of the higher tax rate, so costco joins many come over 100 companies that have done much of the same. paying out dividends so you can pay less taxes. melissa: thank you so much. lori: so thoughtful of the company. president obama invited middle-class americans to the white house to showcase those would be most affected a certain tax cuts are not extended. peter barnes live at the white house. >> 85 middle-class taxpayers joining the president at this event part of a pr push to drive them to extend tax cuts for middle-class taxpayers let them expire for wealthier taxpayers. t
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reid, mitch mcconnell, john boehner, nancy pelosi will be serious. going over the cliff doesn't make any sense. >> we all remember the t.a.r.p. vote that you reference. that really didn't come to a resolution until the markets -- i would argue -- scared washington. i wonder how important you think that is this time? do stocks need to fall before the two sides really get committed at the table? >> that is a terrific question. that's the main question. in two days we lost 1,600 points in the markets. it took us a lot longer time to come back and recover. i sat there and stared defeat in the face. we can't do it now. the markets will respond to certainty. that's what congress needs to give american business and american people. certainty about taxes. certainty about spending in congress and certainty about our commitment to lower the debt. >> how do you argue that you are considering all elements of reform if in fact you're going to stick by the norquist pledge. is there anything wrong with as senator graham has said with saying i made that pledge back then but my job is to be a senator
tell you from having visited john boehner's district north of cincinnati last week the fis cliff maybe an abstract discussion here in washington but out there in southwestern ohio, if we tip back into recession, the economic pain would be very real. middle town and the rest of southwestern ohio has been working its way back economically from the long-term loss of manufacturing jobs and troubles in the auto industry. the last thing this area needs now another economic setback from the fiscal cliff. house speaker boehner and his colleagues in the congressional leadership have founded conciliatory notes about their prospects that sounds like good news here at the local chamber of commerce here in middle town but only up to a point. >> i want to be confident. i want to be optimistic but no i think i would rather be veered at this point. >> reporter: one of the speakers constituents, steve hightower, has a petroleum distribution business, like the economy is doing well. he has known boehner for years and believes the speaker wants to make a deal with president obama to avoid the fiscal clif
and what they are. is allowed john boehner and mitch mcconnell to govern recently. it's about the republican governors passed out ushers at the red states for the 24 states republican governors, republican legislature. blue are the 13 of 40 state spending on how you count new york, 13 of 14 state that a democratic governor and a democratic house and senate. and there you see the red states are not raising taxes. they're cutting taxes in the red states and blue states are raising taxes rather than reforming government. so the fight we're having in washington where there's gridlock in the stage of the opposite of gridlock. for the last two years. "new york times" wrote an article about last week, it's been true for two-year -- >> about the legislators -- >> the legislative in the various states that you've got 24 states if the republicans get together they can turn the state into hong kong or texas. you have 13 maybe 14 states if the democrats because they could turn their state into greece or california. >> we are in washington and the wording goes back to 86, right? >> yes. pa
house speaker john boehner and harry reid this weekend for avoid efforts on fiscal cliff. on wednesday president obama will seek more input from top ceos, including gold man's lloyd blankfein and caterpillar's doug owner hill man. a number will travel to washington to try to reach a deficit cutting deal as part of the fix the debt campaign. so all things fiscal cliff still pre-dominate. we have a time clock that's quickly running out. how important is it that we get an agreement before the end of the year? >> this is like the debt ceiling argument. people got into a panic. that's something we even imposed on ourselves to decide that the debt shouldn't go too high. so it's not a bad thing. same with the fiscal cliff. what are we saying with the fiscal cliff? we're saying the economy might be revealed to be what it's actually doing because we'll take away the artificial supports because we think it's held any enough now to maybe after itself. that might entail a step drop because at the moment we're giving these tax breaks, but we're doing it out of our saving. >> but the point isn't jus
increases. john boehner will likely make the final decisions on what the team decides in terms of the deal. >> thank you so much. >> it is time now to take a look at who is talking and thousands taking the streets in cairo after mohammed morsi taking total control of the country and won't answer to the branch of government. they are afraid the latest power grab will lead egypt away from democracy and back into a dictatorship and possibly all of the way to shirea law. >> nonislamist egyptian activist mohammed el baradei is calling on the united states to condemn morsi. i am hoping to see a strong statement of condemnation by the u.s., by europe and everybody who really cares about human dignity. democrat and chairman of the senate committee of armed services carl levin says america needs to play the middle. >> i think we have to be cautious. we doesn't want to see a democratically elected auto krat take the place of an unelected dictator which is the case before that. on the other hand there are real pluses here. >> they will push the white house to take a side. they need to condemn morsi a
with the congressional leaders, john boehner, harry reid, mitch mcconnell, and out for thanksgiving solely today are people trying to get back starting to draw the battle lines a little bit. we seem to have burned three weeks which is time is of the essence. david: i'm thinking three years ago obamacare on christmas eve, will it come down to that? >> maybe new year's eve january january 1, mandattry spending cuts kick in on the second of january. you hit on a very important point. congress only ask when there is the gamut swinging over their heads. they often do this around christmas time. it is the final train leaving the station. finishing the christmas shopping and people start to get itchy, i compare it to stockholm syndrome. people are sweating it out after a while they start to sympathize. david: i was saying is it an either or? tax rates go up or you get in and of deductions for the wealthy, and he seemed to say both. we should have a cap of $25,000 cap on abductions and marginal tax rate go up. do you think the president will hold out for that? >> harry reid this afternoon was adamant,
to meet our needs what is interesting is we have representative john boehner talking about putting obamacare in the fiscal cliff discussion and they did not come downie their way on that but they are stepping out talking about the urgent need to fix the fiscal cliff. >> these companies have two strikes against the. the fiscal cliff and obamacare and reliant on prescriptions for elderly. liz: it is not generic but cheap drugs, being fixed. again and again i am watching the slow parade of ceos and companies, you see the usual suspects. is striking to see walgreen's and cvs because these guys don't discuss public policy and i don't think it is to butter up the guys in washington. i don't think any a seat at the table. dave: when you said she drug all of our crew looked up. what is going on? i don't know. i just throw that in. see you later. coming up next a look at the important news on the radar for next week that will be moving markets. tracy: black friday shoppers need to be extra careful in the parking lots and it is not because i am there. [ male announcer ] how do you tde? with
speaker john boehner said he would prefer closing loopholes and tax deductions rather than raising rates. martha: thank you very much. bill: the budget negotiations with congressional leaders started a few weeks ago with president obama barack obama calling for $1.6 trillion in additional tax revenue over the next decade. treasury secretary timothy geithner argues that you cannot raise enough revenue to reduce the deficit by only limited tax breaks as some republicans argue, some senior republican aides they say believe a likely compromise would generate about a trillion dollars in new tax revenue possibly by limiting the deductions. martha: part of this whole equation. any future spending cuts should come gradually warned the global economic watchdog so as not to derail the already weak recovery. the group predicts the economy will grow a bit next year but at a slower rate than originally thought. we are really in a very slow growth pattern. they are projecting 2% next year compared with 2.6% which was the forecast from a few months ago. that kind of gross does not get you up off the ma
, though, is that president obama did reach out to house speaker john boehner. he is the republican, the senate majority leader harry reid the democrat over the weekend, perhaps to try to jump-start the talks. as of now, as the house of representatives comes back today, as the senate came back yesterday, we're still very much in limbo on the fiscal cliff. >> here's something else we know. some major republicans have come out and they say that they don't feel bound by the americans for tax reform pledge. most recently we saw house majority leader eric cantor. do you believe more republicans will stick by this? >> what we're finding out right now zoraida is that there's a little bit of coming to jesus moment about how to fix the fiscal cliff. for republicans perhaps it is going to be higher taxes. for democrats there's going to have to be some changes to entitlement reform. but grover norquist has been really the person pushing this no tax pledge, has been on our airwaves. he's been talking a lot about it. let's hear what he had to say about republicans who might break the pledge. >>
letter of resignation to speaker john boehner. they confirmed that today and he write it is move will set off a scrammle to fill the seat in the chicago area. pat quinn will have five days from the effective date of the resignation to announce the time of the special election. jesse jackson jr. resigning his seat in congress. we'll keep you posted on that. and we said we would take you live to the united nations at 3:00 this afternoon. that has been pushed back likely in response to the news of the ceasefire in israel today. that has been pushed to 3:30 eastern. we will take you there once it gets under way. >> james on our 65 and over line. good afternoon, sir. caller: i'm 85-year-old and i was living good up until the last four years off of my retirement. but in the last four years the cost of living has gone up so much that i can't make it. i have to get out and get odd jobs to buy groceries. and this -- the first of this year i got a 1.7 increase in social security and cost of living went up 30% this year. host: what is the biggest thing that cost of living increase affects for you? c
moore, editorial board, good morning to you, steven. >> hi, good morning. >> john boehner is clear, he does not want to raise rates, he wants to give in if at all on deductions and write-offs saying they can essentially write off the same amount for the treasury, what should republicans do here? >> it's an interesting dilemma the republicans find themselves in, dave. most of them, as you know, have taken this no tax pledge, which is the pledge to voters that they won't raise taxes on anybody, and so, now president obama is saying we're going to raise the taxes on the rich and he won't sign any bill that doesn't have a tax increase on the rich, so, the two parties are still at logger heads. i personally think given the still fragility of this economic recovery, the economy still isn't sputtering on one cylinder now, and high unemployment. it doesn't make sense to me to raise taxes on businesses or investors. that's where we stand right now. i don't see an agreement anytime really soon because the two sides are still so far apart. >> i'm a betting man, steven, would you imagine that the
powerful than speaker john boehner. norquist is more powerful than boehner. it feels as if the air went out of the compromise zeppelin. hey, like the graph zeppelin, like, lakers. retail, now we're hearing that there wasn't as much follow-through to the initial sales from thursday night. i think it's nonsense, but mo macy's and costco were tagged with huge loss es today. i believe the holiday sales are far are flat-out strong. amazing numbers from apple, like a rocket since it hit the 505 level last week. terrific ipad mini sales. wasn't that a product the doom and gloomers had rin owritten o still born a few weeks ago like the iphone 4, by the way? i believe the chinese momentum is lasting. europe, total black box. one being minimized in its importance for american companies. the fis acal cliff, i saw a ste backward in positions. those who think rising above is a political judgment, when it is a judgment about the need to rid washington of politics. that even a fool knows it's ruining this great country. bottom line, get a deal on the fiscal cliff, we go higher, maybe much higher, aided by
there is no second sit down scheduled for the president and congressional leaders he did speak to john boehner and harry reid over the weekend about avoiding the fiscal cliff. the president will meet with small business owners today. tomorrow he meets with middle class americans who would be affected by tax hikes and more business leaders. friday he's going to travel to hatfield pennsylvania where he will give campaign style remarks to get support for congress to negotiate the right kind of deal. we are back with more steph after this. ♪ [ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> announcer: ladies and gentlemen, it's the "stephanie miller show." ♪ >> yahoo, it is the "stephanie miller show," welcome to it. 1-800-steph-1-2 toll free from everywhere. steven weber. he will be there nobody panic he will be right there. charlie pierce said some good stuff about the fiscal cliff and other things. this is going to be a fascinating discussion. the president playing three dimensional chess. told you so. >> never mind. >> never mind. >> corn? when did we book corn? [ laughter ] >> oh, you kids. i swear. all right, you kn
: that is your congressman? caller: yes. john boehner and nancy pelosi need to get together, organized all the votes they need to pass the bill that is already passed through the senate, which is the 250,000 and below, maintain the bush tax cuts. if they did that and went ahead and passed that bill, that would put the issue of the other foot -- the shoe on the other foot in regard to congress would show good faith in the effort to avoid the fiscal cliff. that would force the democrats to seriously look at fiscal reduction. it would demonstrate the fairness aspect of the rich paying a little more. but it would force the democrats to seriously look at entitlements. this could really be a big step in avoiding the fiscal cliff and would give confidence, makes for a good holiday season. it is the thing to do. john boehner and nancy pelosi need to get together, get the votes, and pass the senate bill. host: i want to take you to the republican line. pat in richmond hill, georgia. caller: good morning. yes, overall, in the long term, i have a lot of confidence in the u.s. economy. short-term, as
, the president and speaker boehner did talk on the phone on saturday. john harwood live in washington with the latest. john? >> carl, you know, the president and the speaker had a conversation over the weekend. there haven't been too many meetings at the staff level or the principals level. but there has been something that changed about the atmosphere post election. and what you've seen is more and more republicans coming out and being willing to say out loud they're willing to raise taxes of some kind. whether or not it's tax rates or tax revenue in a way they weren't willing to do in 2011 when john boehner and the president were negotiating an attempted grand bargain then. we saw one on the sunday shows over the weekend, that was lindsey graham of south carolina and then bob corker of tennessee. let's take a listen to their comments. >> i agree we shouldn't raise rates, but i think grover is wrong when it comes to we can't cap deductions and buy down debt. what do you do with the money? -- i will violate the pledge, long story short, for the good of the country only if democrats wi
'm looking for is more revenue for entitlement reform. >> and john boehner's called for a short term fix to overt the fiscal cliff so congress can work on on a bigger deal in 2013. but in an op-ed, republican senator bob corker says both sides need to carve out a $4 trillion package that includes both revenue hikes and spending cuts by the end of the year. >>> still to come, the miss crest shopping day of the year for online retailers. snapping up deals on big ike ket item. we'll get a look. having you ship my gifts couldn't be easier. well, having a ton of locations doesn't hurt. and a santa to boot! [ chuckles ] right, baby. oh, sir. that is a customer. oh...sorry about that. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. fedex office. >>> today is cyber monday. analysts say it's not as big a day as it's been in past. so many people shopping online over the weekend. but com score still says sales might reach $1.5 billion. pierce, sunday it earlier, consumers appear to be on fire. >> kind of defies gravity a little bit. but with the consumer confidence data in the last three months,
the opposite of the way they've negotiated inside with john boehner and others on past deals. >> yeah, the president feels he has very strong cards here and one of the strategies of the white house is that if we go over the cliff, if all those tax cuts are allowed to expire, the president has real ways to extract pain from the republicans. polls already show people are more likely to blame republicans and here's something very important. republican leaders know that. joe scarborough writes on politico right now that when eric cantor, the number two house republican was there on your set, that he noticed a different tone from him and seeing more and more signs of that as the week goes along, the republican leaders recognize that the president has an inaugural address, a state of the union address and a lot of high-profile ways to pin the blame on them and so today we have this remarkable movement position by tom cole, one of the most politically savvy republicans who told their whip team that they would be better off to cave, that they would be better off to give what he calls the earl
the leaders of the senate, harry reid and mitch mcconnell. i want to congratulate speaker john boehner, who has done a phenomenal job of ensuring that we would continue business as usual. i want to congratulate minority leader posey forever that she has put in, getting us to the point we are today. i urge my colleagues to support this measure. with that, i yield back the balance of my time. >> the chair now recognizes members from the committee on ways and means, chairman mr. camp from michigan and ranking minority member mr. levin from michigan. the gentleman from michigan. >> i yield myself such time as i may consume. >> it is recognized. >> if the congress does not act and act now, america will default. that would wreak havoc on our economy and make it harder for americans to find and keep a job. edfault cannot be an option. i am pleased that the bill before us ensures that will not occur. just as it would threaten economic health, so would increase in taxes. raising taxes on families and job creators would hinder investment, increase the cost of doing business, and result in even less h
and 2014 because then they aren't coming back. >> if you are john boehner, speaker boehner, your proposal is -- your bright line is what? >> first of all, you want to have this conversation in public and whatever happens, you want it online. that gives you the moral high ground and allows the american people to focus on this. >> wait, what you are saying right there is a path to a deal, you're not saying they should go over a political cliff. you're saying they should fight for the best deal they can get, but you're not advocating cutting off your nose to spite your face? >> no. i had conversations with wolf blitzer. this is deja vu all over again with the end of the world, all dragons and going to go over the debt ceiling thing and the argument is do you want to default? no, we don't. we want to save $2.5 trillion in spending, and we won that fight. the democrats refer to the debt ceiling thing as a failure. no. no. we got the spending cuts that american taxpayers wanted and didn't get your taxes weren't increased. failure to raise taxes. the d's desperately need to raise taxes in order
but that will happen. the market will be going up and down on small indicators. is john boehner smiling or frowning today? we'll have a lot of volatility for the next two or three months because i do think it's going to be two or three months. i think this is going to go into january. i think close to a 50% chance we'll go over the fiscal cliff temporarily. the market won't react well to that so it's going to be very, very bumpy couple of months here. >> that said, seasonally, i was told not too long ago, the period between thanksgiving week and december 3rd, the past 20 years has been positive for stocks for 17 of those 20 years. is there going to be any kind of hope for a santa claus rally here, michael? >> i think there is. that's simply because pessimism has reached a level of extreme that historically has led to higher markets over the next three months 81% of the time. the average market gain when pessimism has gotten to this low a level has been about 7%. i think when you look at the basic, you know -- we have three rules to guide our tactical trading. don't fid the fed. obviously on our sid
, what house speaker john boehner will be and the closed-door negotiations which we will get a sense of but probably not the back and forth. jon: 36 days left to get the deal done, most of those days in december when not a lot usually happens in washington. it will be interesting . thanks for watching it for us brett. you can catch brett every we can night 6pm eastern bret baier anchors special report. jenna: a new report that iran is sending weapons and supplies to help the regime in syria. iraq is allowing iran to fly the convoys through the air space. leland vittert joins us live in jerusalem. how is this working? >> reporter: essentially what is going on here, general ace the iranians want some way to get weapons, ammunition and men over to the syrian regime. they can't fly north through turkey, they are flying through iraq that is despite the u.s. asking iraq to close down air space to these kinds of flights. this is video that's been confirmed to fox news by western intelligence sources showing iranian revolutionary guard troops getting off of cargo troops that view via iraqi a
to say. [video clip] >> he spoke with john boehner. by the weekend and he will meet with them at the appropriate time as well as nancy pelosi and mitch mcconnell. so the process that he began is continuing. recanting you to be optimistic that a balanced approach is achievable. we know what the solutions are. it was senator who said that in an op-ed, one benefit of all of the debate said we have had any discussions over the past couple of years is that we know what the parameters of a balanced solution for these challenges look like. and they include both spending cuts and revenues and entitlement reform. they have to have -- all three legs of the school of got to report of that. >> jay carney at the white house. was asked about the idea of going off the fiscal cliff. alan krueger, the chairman of president obama's economic advisers, he spoke about what would happen if we go off this so-called fiscal cliff. in this report put out by the white house, american consumers will spend 200 billion less in 2013 if the fiscal cliff is not averted according to this white house report. ja
. they're use it as leverage. john boehner said as much to the president. people say the debt ceiling thing is an albatross. most countries don't have a debt limit. they deal with it in a different way. the debt ceiling debate which started this issue of congress not being able to make decisions on financial matters will come to a sometime between december 31st and february 1st. that is another set of things we have to deal with if they get the fiscal cliff dealt with. >> 35 days, we're counting them and going to see if we can get anything done. thank you. >>> what we're also working on this hour -- egyptian president mohamed morsi's power grab is challenged. but will it be enough to preserve democracy? >>> and medical marijuana a 7-year-old patient in oregon is taking the drug. is it right treatment for kids with cancer? dr. sanjay gupta reports. >>> plus -- scott kelly i didn't cal twin brother of nasa astronaut mark kelley, the husband of former congresswoman gabrielle giffords, takes on a historic mission. he heads to space for a year. we'll take a look at what it will be like liv
, and don't to work for a bigger deal. >> is this the sign of a movement? it was quickly shot down by john boehner. >> i want your take on the comments -- is this the direction that the conference is going? >> i told tom earlier in our conference meeting that i disagreed with him. we'll put revenue on the table as long as we're not raising rates. >> i think he is wrong and most of the congress thinks he is wrong. >> so talks continue behind the scenes with the photo-ops out front. >> i'm told speaker boehner was surprised by congressman cole's remarks when he heard them today. they said they believe a measure to extepid just the middle class tax cuts would pass if brought for a vote in the house, but republican aides say there is no plans for that as well. we learned late this evening that timothy geithner, and rob neighbors, a liaison for the house, are coming to meet with boehner and other leaders in separate meetings, so that is a very important meeting. what comes of that, of course, is encouraging. we'll see what comes of it. >> and geithner the point man. >> and later tonight, i will
when the president says he wants to see higher tax rates. john boehner says clearly not. >> it is a lot easier to say at this level of generality. it becomes harder to enacted. the number of times of with the head of the cbo, senator so and so would call me up and say i want to talk about tax reform and i would walk in and the head is one talking point which is brought in the base and lower the rate. what are you willing to scale back? mortgage interest, cannot touch that. charitable, cannot touch that. you go down the list. one of the reasons of these new ideas being attractive is a are obscuring what has to be cut back. >> there is still a hard choice there. >> we are not saying we are going to cut out your ability to deduct your mortgage but i will get to keep my ability to deduct my local tax. everything goes into a pot. everybody gets to keep their deductions but you cannot be too greedy about it. it does have to limit the amount they can benefit from it. >> that is the selling point. >> the notion here, can you do this and have the only effect of the wealthiest americans -- affect
and john boehner to bring their wings of the parties back in for any sort of a deal. because it seems like both sides are getting their back up at this point. >> well, i don't think it's making it more difficult, becky. i think what happens is at the beginning of a negotiation, everybody is sort of staking out their positions and their demands. you know, the demand by democrats, for example, that social security and medicare not be part of this discussion, that's not a sustainable demand. everybody knows that entitlement programs, the president has said so, have to be part of this. now, exactly what proportion and when they're part of it, those are things that you can talk about, but, no, they are part of this deal. so are tax increases, and, you know, republicans taking out the position that, well, we can't touch tax rates, we can touch tax loopholes, everybody's got to wait and see how the math adds up. this is an extremely complicated and difficult thing. >> i don't think -- i don't think it's well done to be negotiating in public like this because it only makes it more difficult. i wis
] >> ladies and gentleman, the speaker of united states house of representatives, the honorable john boehner. [applause] >> good morning, everyone. welcome, my colleagues, the leaders and the two chambers and my colleagues from the house and senate. certainly arnold and his family and friends. jack and barbara nicklaus, and fellow golfers here and around the world. arnie, i'm going to tell a couple of golf stories and we'll get around to giving you the gold medal. what makes this metal unique is that any american can win it. whether it be a general, an artist, and astronauts, or an athlete. you can start out selling paint and end up receiving congress's highest honor. not bad for an honest they's work. throughout his life, he's been a model of integrity, passion, and commitment. these are the attributes of a great golfer, and a great american. arne will tell you, it has never been about winning. he won the amateur championship back in 1964. that turning point, as he called it. there was something about the way he walked, attack the ball. asked about that, arnie said, everyone wants to win, b
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